I have to admit i profound admitration to both of you for keeping this conversation civil, wyndhy for your stunning dipiction of veiws i partly myself share.

jseal for your passionat and heartfelt comitment to your own views displayed whit respect to peopel who dont share it.

Most of the time from both sides this is not the case, mostly probobly becase we dont understand each other, you both show a level of tolerance that i wish was the norm for the world.

Alas it is not.

My problem whit religon in politics and while it dont say it i'm fairly sure that this law is based on a religus moral depictment from the past brought back to justefy an arcaic morality not befiting todays sosaity... my problem is that there is no evidents that a lack of 'god' is the reason for a 'Moral' decay In sweden for exampel we have a very very low religus movment and we do not see the kind of violence that we see over there... so from our point of veiw the reason for your violence and decay (i'm not sure i agree that it's as bad as that) is the cause of state being to closly knitted together whit the religus movments.

It's all about prespectiv, I belive strongly that peopel should have the right to belive what they want, they should be alowd to practis that to the full exstent of there belifes... but it need to stop at my door, and my life... if i dont want it i should not have to deal whit it.

Belife should be a private desition of faith, it should not be in school... however i do belive peopel should be tought ABOUT religon they should learn about all the faiths... about all cultures about the wounderfull stories depicted in their words...

I'm an Athiest, today regretfully that have turned in to a bad word, shamefully when asked when peopel would trust the least they answered "an Athiest" An Athiest is a person who belive that there is no God. atleast by my definition and most peopel i know, i respect religon and while i dont belive i love to read about it... i'm even considering becoming a teacher of religon on highscool level... and i would teach about all the wounderfull things of those religons i would teach the history and what they belive, even if i dont.

I kind of got side tracked alittle but i think i'm point would be that, Religon is not what should be the bases of Morality, becase Religon can be interpreted so very much by difrent peopel... Morality most be based on sound judgment of right and wrong... peopel should not be evicted becase they dont fall under a morality system that say that it's not right for two peopel to live together becase they want to... and dont want to be married.

To me Morality is not something writen in a book and interpreted by a belife system... it must be written in our hearts and minds and conected by truths and justice.

Admiral